9/11

[GOP]

Originally Posted by deanhills

I don't think I get the conspiracy theory in the discussion? Was 9/11 a Bush conspiracy? Or a continuing conspiracy from Reagen?

I think we partially left the conspiracy theories and started to debate international terrorism and when the war on that started.

[deanhills]

Originally Posted by GOP

I think we partially left the conspiracy theories and started to debate international terrorism and when the war on that started.

So for interesting sake, do you think 9/11 was a conspiracy, and that the terrorist attacks were genuine ones planned and executed by El Qaeda?

[David]

Originally Posted by deanhills

So for interesting sake, do you think 9/11 was a conspiracy, and that the terrorist attacks were genuine ones planned and executed by El Qaeda?

I don't think OBL is spanish.

[GOP]

Originally Posted by deanhills

So for interesting sake, do you think 9/11 was a conspiracy, and that the terrorist attacks were genuine ones planned and executed by El Qaeda?

No absolutely not. I feel that these conspiracy theories are made by young leftists who are only out to hurt Bush. If this happened under Obama, none of it would've been his fault.

[David]

Originally Posted by GOP

No absolutely not. I feel that these conspiracy theories are made by young leftists who are only out to hurt Bush. If this happened under Obama, none of it would've been his fault.

Leftists? I didn't think any sane person was pro-Bush anymore.

[GOP]

Originally Posted by David

Leftists? I didn't think any sane person was pro-Bush anymore.

I'd call people who are pro-Bush very sane, considering Bush is a president who did very difficult, but understandable, choices for America. At the same time this was obviously against the majority of people around the world. People who support Bush dare to be different and make unpopular choices. I think that's very sane.

[deanhills]

Originally Posted by GOP

I'd call people who are pro-Bush very sane, considering Bush is a president who did very difficult, but understandable, choices for America. At the same time this was obviously against the majority of people around the world. People who support Bush dare to be different and make unpopular choices. I think that's very sane.

Well said and totally agreed. For starters, he was able to make decisions quickly and decisively, and definitely not with reference to his marketing person for re-election purposes, such as Obama has been doing for example. I get the feeling Obama sometimes delays decisions so that he can wait "for the right moment" for the right kind of impact, or to delay it for political reasons. Bush always had the immediate safety and security of the United States in mind. No delays.

[David]

Originally Posted by deanhills

Well said and totally agreed. For starters, he was able to make decisions quickly and decisively, and definitely not with reference to his marketing person for re-election purposes, such as Obama has been doing for example. I get the feeling Obama sometimes delays decisions so that he can wait "for the right moment" for the right kind of impact, or to delay it for political reasons. Bush always had the immediate safety and security of the United States in mind. No delays.

Ad at it's worst, his rule was borderline police-state. Once the Dems took over, he lost alot of his power but remember, before that point we were on the edge of theocracy with talks of deporting gays, allowing prayers at secular institutions and amending the Constitution in support of Fundi Christian doctrine.

[GOP]

Originally Posted by David

Ad at it's worst, his rule was borderline police-state. Once the Dems took over, he lost alot of his power but remember, before that point we were on the edge of theocracy with talks of deporting gays, allowing prayers at secular institutions and amending the Constitution in support of Fundi Christian doctrine.

These are pretty hard accusations and I'd love for you to document this.

[deanhills]

Originally Posted by David

Ad at it's worst, his rule was borderline police-state.

Can't be true. As one of the characteristics of a police state is curbing "freedom" of the press. During Bush's reign, there could not have been more Internet Websites and blogs that could have been more critical of him, not to mention the Press. Bush became the American people's excuse for not taking responsibility for their political participation. Much easier to blame everything on Bush.

Besides which, the political system just won't allow a President to have such a lot of power, i.e. to create a Politce State. Bush was given a role to play, and he did the best he could with the hand that got dealt to him. He did not do diplomacy well, but he did most of everything well, he never hesitated.